Comments for Welcome to Sherwood http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com Just another WordPress.com weblog Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:07:41 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on GrandView by Clint Laskowski http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-137 Clint Laskowski Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:07:41 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-137 @Paul - I'm only looking for a single pane (ideally multiple columns) outliner for Windows. I'm not looking for a wiki or a web-based application or a mind-mapping tool. The only applications I've found are ECCO Pro, Java Outline Editor (JOE), and now a new one (just found out about it today), UV Outliner. See my post about it at http://clintonsecurity.com/2009/10/30/uv-outliner/. I'm not affiliated with it, but it does look interesting. @Paul – I’m only looking for a single pane (ideally multiple columns) outliner for Windows. I’m not looking for a wiki or a web-based application or a mind-mapping tool. The only applications I’ve found are ECCO Pro, Java Outline Editor (JOE), and now a new one (just found out about it today), UV Outliner. See my post about it at http://clintonsecurity.com/2009/10/30/uv-outliner/. I’m not affiliated with it, but it does look interesting.

]]> Comment on GrandView by Paul http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-136 Paul Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:29:49 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-136 For the PC, there are many outliners— and they meet different needs. Inspiration, for instance, allows for multiple views of your outline— with inline blocks, headers only, and even notecards. Literary Machine is built around the classic notecard paradigm for writers, and makes a decent outliner in conjuction with its notecards. ConnectedText is a great personal wiki with outlining functionality. Natara’s Bonzai is a cross platform outliner. Wikipedia has quite a section on outliners, for windows, mac, and *nix. And of course, there’s always the big monster outliner sites, like http://www.mind-mapping.org (“Software for mindmapping and information organisation”) and all the other dozen or so monster sites dedicated to OUTLINERS or Mind-Mappers (as mindmappers are just radial outliners). Two and three panel outliners are the most common forms of outliners on the PC platform, but their are quite a few single pane ones out there, if you are willing to look. For the PC, there are many outliners— and they meet different needs.

Inspiration, for instance, allows for multiple views of your outline— with inline blocks, headers only, and even notecards.

Literary Machine is built around the classic notecard paradigm for writers, and makes a decent outliner in conjuction with its notecards.

ConnectedText is a great personal wiki with outlining functionality.

Natara’s Bonzai is a cross platform outliner.

Wikipedia has quite a section on outliners, for windows, mac, and *nix.

And of course, there’s always the big monster outliner sites, like http://www.mind-mapping.org (“Software for mindmapping and information organisation”) and all the other dozen or so monster sites dedicated to OUTLINERS or Mind-Mappers (as mindmappers are just radial outliners).

Two and three panel outliners are the most common forms of outliners on the PC platform, but their are quite a few single pane ones out there, if you are willing to look.

]]> Comment on GrandView by Kyle http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-134 Kyle Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:15:57 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-134 Vermonter 17032, It is a shame that Org Mode is not a standalone application. For that reason I don't recommend it as a solution, but with regard to GV some of Org Mode's functionality seems similar enough to make me wonder if someone didn't receive a bit of inspiration from GV. Over the last few months I have been giving Emacs a try (which is where I encountered Org Mode) mainly out of hope that I will have a cross platform text editor that will not become obsolete. (I am also fond of plain text for the same reason.) We shall see if the payoff is worth the - let's just say - significant time investment :) Cheers, Kyle Vermonter 17032,

It is a shame that Org Mode is not a standalone application. For that reason I don’t recommend it as a solution, but with regard to GV some of Org Mode’s functionality seems similar enough to make me wonder if someone didn’t receive a bit of inspiration from GV. Over the last few months I have been giving Emacs a try (which is where I encountered Org Mode) mainly out of hope that I will have a cross platform text editor that will not become obsolete. (I am also fond of plain text for the same reason.) We shall see if the payoff is worth the – let’s just say – significant time investment :)

Cheers,
Kyle

]]> Comment on GrandView by Vermonter 17032 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-133 Vermonter 17032 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:47:35 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-133 Clint, I don't know why Mac seems to have more and stronger outlining applications than PC/Windows. But I will say that I'm not so impressed by what is available on the Mac. OmniOutliner is certainly serviceable and better than most anything for PC, and Tao might be the best of the lot. But none of these are as good as GrandView was, in my opinion. Good luck with your project. Steve Clint,

I don’t know why Mac seems to have more and stronger outlining applications than PC/Windows. But I will say that I’m not so impressed by what is available on the Mac. OmniOutliner is certainly serviceable and better than most anything for PC, and Tao might be the best of the lot. But none of these are as good as GrandView was, in my opinion.

Good luck with your project.

Steve

]]> Comment on GrandView by Clint Laskowski http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-132 Clint Laskowski Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:24:23 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-132 I've been following the outliner discussions for more than a decade. I still can't believe there is no decent outliner for Windows. I use Emacs Org-Mode, but I still long for a an easy to use single plane outliner for Windows. One thing I'd really like to know is why are there 10-15 decent outliners for Mac, but not one for Windows? Does OS X have some embeddable control that makes writing an outliner easier? At this point I'm teaching myself C# so I can write my own outliner for Windows. Wish me luck! I’ve been following the outliner discussions for more than a decade. I still can’t believe there is no decent outliner for Windows. I use Emacs Org-Mode, but I still long for a an easy to use single plane outliner for Windows.

One thing I’d really like to know is why are there 10-15 decent outliners for Mac, but not one for Windows? Does OS X have some embeddable control that makes writing an outliner easier?

At this point I’m teaching myself C# so I can write my own outliner for Windows. Wish me luck!

]]> Comment on GrandView by Vermonter 17032 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-131 Vermonter 17032 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:26:39 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-131 Kyle, Thanks for the heads up about orgmode. I've heard of it before, but it seemed like a lot of bother to install emacs and orgmode, but since you're comparing it to my beloved GrandView, well I just gotta try it. Thanks, again. Steve Kyle,

Thanks for the heads up about orgmode. I’ve heard of it before, but it seemed like a lot of bother to install emacs and orgmode, but since you’re comparing it to my beloved GrandView, well I just gotta try it. Thanks, again.

Steve

]]> Comment on GrandView by Kyle http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-130 Kyle Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:31:37 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-130 Hello, very nice article. I was not aware of GV but I am always interested in learning about old applications with features ahead of their time or with features that have never been matched. GV definitely fits this description. One would think new software developers would do well to study the past and learn something. You might find "org mode" which runs under emacs interesting. It comes very close - so much so that I am wondering if the developers had some familiarity with GV. www.orgmode.org Hello, very nice article. I was not aware of GV but I am always interested in learning about old applications with features ahead of their time or with features that have never been matched. GV definitely fits this description. One would think new software developers would do well to study the past and learn something.
You might find “org mode” which runs under emacs interesting. It comes very close – so much so that I am wondering if the developers had some familiarity with GV.
http://www.orgmode.org

]]> Comment on GrandView by Rodrigo http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/grandview/#comment-129 Rodrigo Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:54:56 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=320#comment-129 Hi there, I currently use MS Word documents in Outline view and have been looking for an outlining app that I can use both on my PC laptop and on my iPhone, when I came upon your post. Looks like GV had some of the features I've been looking for but can't seem to find anywhere :-) Thanks for the info! Hi there, I currently use MS Word documents in Outline view and have been looking for an outlining app that I can use both on my PC laptop and on my iPhone, when I came upon your post. Looks like GV had some of the features I’ve been looking for but can’t seem to find anywhere :-) Thanks for the info!

]]> Comment on Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize! by Federal Farmer http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize/#comment-128 Federal Farmer Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:11:34 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=316#comment-128 Very interesting! thanks for doing the digging, Robbin Hood! Very interesting! thanks for doing the digging, Robbin Hood!

]]> Comment on A healthy dose of reality in the health care debate by vic http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/a-healthy-dose-of-reality-in-the-health-care-debate/#comment-125 vic Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:35:51 +0000 http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/?p=307#comment-125 Steve, You might like to link to this in your blog. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/19/nhs-healthcare-america take care Vic Steve,
You might like to link to this in your blog.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/19/nhs-healthcare-america
take care
Vic

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